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| ThomasPendelton |
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  Registered Member #4094 Joined: Thu Dec 27 2012, 07:21amPosts: 7 | I am new to the model ship building work. Like most things I have jumped into it headfirst. For Christmas I was given Constructo HMS Victory kit. I'm posting some of the reference books I have been acquiring as well. This has become a hobby all of its own.. I found a blog of a victory build where the guy filled in-between the bulkheads, I also read another post that recommended this as well. Im anticipating this to make planking much easier. Speaking of planking, I received my tool from Model-Expo today, shipping was really fast. I have a couple questions about the build. The first question has to do with the integrity to the craft. I have been toying with the idea of Making this build a "Victory Ghost Ship". I find my imagination building a backstory as my hands build the ship and have started to write. Ive been a working artist since the age of 16. From working in Hollywood building props for movies, to doing 2 television shows if my own. I have art directed multiple clothing companies and headed up production for the largest traveling night club on the west coast. I give a few credentials only to add validity to the thought of straying from the original build. My idea is to build the ship as if its spirit were traveling the open oceans today... I have learned so much in the short time I have been working on this, that I am already planning on purchasing a higher quality Victory kit when this one is finished.. So the question is, is it in bad form to model ship builders everywhere to stray from the intended purpose of the kit...? Second question is, my gratings on the upper deck. I saw a couple builds where they stained the grating and I really liked the look. I also noticed in a couple "real" photos on another ship where the gratings were dark. After looking through my books and watching countless videos, I think they need to be light... Can anyone "enlighten" me? And also let me in on a way of cutting the pieces so they don't break during the process. Thank you Thomas C Pendelton        | ||
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| aew |
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aew   Registered Member #1929 Joined: Wed Nov 30 2011, 03:05pmPosts: 2613 | Your first question is easy to answer, it's your model so you can build it in any style you like! There's no problem fitting blocks between all the bulkheads, but you only really need them at the bow and stern. As far as the gratings are concerned, have a look at this: http://www.prdobson.com/images/photos/7-victory_047-132-1177068143.jpg Interestingly, I'm not sure if that picture contradicts how I thought they were constructed fitted and how I've just modeled mine. I understood that the gratings were fitted first and the deck planking was then fitted round them. This appears to be fitted on top of the planking, all though I could be mistaken! When you refer to cutting the gratings, are you referring to cutting them to size after assembly? I've not found that to be a problem provided you don't try to make gratings that don't have continuous sections on each edge. Lay the grating down so that the notches on the pieces you're cutting are downwards and then cut off the excess pieces one by one with a sharp knife. | ||
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| ThomasPendelton |
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| Registered Member #4094 Joined: Thu Dec 27 2012, 07:21amPosts: 7 | Arthur, thank you very much. I think I am going to lighten the grating a bit, but I think I also want to stain the deck. I have a stain called "Weathered Oak" that may give me that look thats in the photo you sent. I also like the dark lines between planks and the filled in holes and blemishes of the real ship. I think my problem with cutting was not using a knife but scissors and/or the "easy cutter ultimate" that I picked up at my local hobby shop. I'll switch to a blade. Thank you for the advice on the build.. Thomas | ||
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| teleman |
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 Registered Member #1925 Joined: Tue Nov 29 2011, 05:32amPosts: 1254 | Nice start on your model here Thomas and I agree with Arthur........ | ||
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| Ulises Victoria |
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  Registered Member #381 Joined: Tue Oct 27 2009, 09:15pmPosts: 55 | Nice ship. To me the Victory has always been "The" Ship. I built Heller's 1/100 plastic model in the early 90's. Don't see the point in building another in wood. Besides, room is becoming an issue with my ships. Build your kit as you wish. Build it for you. As far as the plank bender, take a look at this post. http://www.modelshipbuilder.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?6950 Wish you the best with your build. Keep us posted. Best regards | ||
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| Tim C |
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 Registered Member #4126 Joined: Fri Feb 15 2013, 05:19amPosts: 996 | The HMS Victory is a great thing to see in person. Someday I might finish a kit of it. Later 42rocker | ||
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| John Coppin |
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 Registered Member #4110 Joined: Sat Jan 26 2013, 08:08pmPosts: 80 | The old discussion between scratch building and kits is always present. As someone said, it is your ship so you can build it in whatever way pleases you. I find the best way is to get the kit then do some research. Not many kits actually conform to the original. I found, for instance, with the Endeavour by Panart that very little did conform to what sparse information I could get. Some glaring examples of how far off the kit was came to light when I purchased the "Anatomy of a Ship". Two anchors or four? Four stern windows or five? I just used my best judgement, and with the little experience I have of naval history, went ahead on that basis. It looks fine to the uninitiated so that is enough. Perhaps not to the 'expert', but how many of those do I get calling! Good luck guys. [ Edited Sun Feb 17 2013, 09:04am ] | ||
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| aew |
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| aew Registered Member #1929 Joined: Wed Nov 30 2011, 03:05pmPosts: 2613 | The following is a link I found to a whole series of pictures of Portsmouth Historic Dockyard. You can go either way, but [Newer] will take you through the 'Victory' pictures. http://www.flickr.com/photos/31068574@N05/7758417394/lightbox/ | ||
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| Tim C |
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| Registered Member #4126 Joined: Fri Feb 15 2013, 05:19amPosts: 996 | Thanks for that link. How they took the photos I don't know. I guess they changed things since I was there in 2004 because they did not allow photos to be taken after you got on board at that time. I have several outside photos that I was allowed to take. Also enjoyed going through the HMS Warrior which is next to the HMS Victory. This is the steam HMS Warrior not the HMS Warrior 74 gunship. Sorry about a little thread highhjacking here, but. Later 42rocker [ Edited Sun Feb 17 2013, 02:04pm ] | ||
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| popeyethesailor |
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 Registered Member #2795 Joined: Mon Jun 04 2012, 11:57amPosts: 179 | the Victory is a hard ship to model......there is so much conflicting information on her. I just go......if I see something wrong.....it probably is. the way I look at kits, is that they are generic.....it's up to us to do all the research that would send the price of the kit through the roof, if they did it. | ||
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