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| midnight |
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 Registered Member #609 Joined: Mon Jan 04 2010, 07:34PMPosts: 45 | I cant help you unfortunately Mario but i can relate to the "one of those days" things . In fact , i get them quite often . | ||
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aew   Registered Member #1929 Joined: Wed Nov 30 2011, 07:05AMPosts: 672 | Mario: The planks curve in two dimensions so there's no way (without some very clever software) that you're going to mark out your planks, from the plans, on to a flat sheet. How about cutting a piece of scrap wood to the correct curvature to stand your model on, soaking the floor planks (oh dear - sanding sealer!) and stretching some elastic bands between the stem and stern posts? You could also add a few weights on the floor. When you get down to 15" you could replace the elastic bands with a temporary batten. If you want to transfer those lines to your frames, you could measure the height on each frame from a base line and use a spirit level to extend it across your frames. | ||
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| daves |
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| Registered Member #105 Joined: Wed Jul 15 2009, 05:01AMPosts: 583 | what i would try first is to curve the bottom like the plans. Basswood may bend without having to soak it. So cut a piece of scrap the height of the curve at the ends and set a weight in the center or if you dont have anything heavy enough some sort of clamping might work. Once the side planks are put on they should hold the curvred floor [ Edited Fri May 04 2012, 06:38AM ] | ||
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| teleman |
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  Registered Member #1925 Joined: Mon Nov 28 2011, 09:32PMPosts: 825 | Hey Guys, Thanks for the suggestions and stopping by. Here and at MSW the majority is saying to try and flex my boat floor. I am going to do just that. But Jeff made a suggestion to add the stringer and the inwales first as to help strengthen and hold the cslight curve. Then I am thinking I should place the shear strake first because that will be where the most stress will be. SO what do you think? Arthrur no worries on the sanding sealer, that is why I went with basswood. It will still bend pretty easily. I think putting any type of band on the stem n stern post will just snap them. The only reason I am thinking this is because I used basswood. If it were say for instance boxwood. It would probably handle a rubber band. So I am going to go with your guys suggestion to bend the floor. Because I was leaning in the same direction. BTW at furthest point we are talking an upward swing of just under an 1/8th of so of an inch. I cut out a building board last night. Since either way I was going to need a BB. Thanks for all the advice. All i can say is keep it coming. I'm just having fun, and its nice to have some friends along for the ride... Mario [ Edited Fri May 04 2012, 09:14AM ] | ||
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| teleman |
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| Registered Member #1925 Joined: Mon Nov 28 2011, 09:32PMPosts: 825 | Well who says you don't learn from midwest models. If I had noticed the upward rake of the boat floor I would of gone the way midwest had me build my Dinghy. All I would of done different on the Batteau was cut out the frames about 1 inch longer so when I nail it to the building board. Because the stem n stern posts are much longer then the frames themselves. here is a pic of what I am talking about. I have to start thinking a different way since this a scratch build. is this what you mean by the dark side.....HAHA! i recommend anybody building the Batteau to make a building board and invert it as you see my dinghy. It will make thing a whole lot easier.... So now that building board was too late for me to use, I had to fashion one to suit the situation I was now in.....here are the results. Oh please give me your opinions and let me know if i could of done it a better way.... _________________ _________________          | ||
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| Registered Member #1023 Joined: Sun Jul 25 2010, 08:41AMPosts: 57 | I'm following your thread from the very beginning in silent. Congratulations for your solution to the bottom curvature, I think is the best one and you are going to make an outstanding Bateau. I’m enjoying a lot following your build. The dark side of the force has name and a surname, JEFF STAUDT. In my opinion, he produces the best set of plans I ever had in my hands, simple, clear and easy. I’m eager to see in the future some more ……big? Very probably, I will build this model when I finish my cross section. Spanien | ||
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| donfarr |
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 Registered Member #2001 Joined: Fri Dec 23 2011, 01:51PMPosts: 373 | Hi Mario, I am glad I waited to do frames and floor boards together until you did yours. I did my floor in individual planks(Basswood) stained Min Wax Pecan. I am using very hot water(boiling) then use shims and the velcro strpas if I can find them. I used Titebond II which is supposed to be watertite. Do not know what wil happen to finish. Don | ||
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| teleman |
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| Registered Member #1925 Joined: Mon Nov 28 2011, 09:32PMPosts: 825 | Spanien, Don, thanks for stopping by. yea it has been a learning experience to think differently when scratch building. You have to take into account a lot more since you are fabricating everything. Hey Spanien I have been following your build also quietly on MSB n MSW. Just beautiful craftsmanship Sir. I am looking real hard at the cross section to... Mario | ||
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| midnight |
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| Registered Member #609 Joined: Mon Jan 04 2010, 07:34PMPosts: 45 | Glad to see you have overcome the issue with the curvature Mario . I'll have to go and have a look at your midwest dinghy and have a look at your building board . I'm unfamiliar with the upside down method . Cheers Dave | ||
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| teleman |
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| Registered Member #1925 Joined: Mon Nov 28 2011, 09:32PMPosts: 825 | Hey Dave, Thanks for stopping by. From what I have read most open bow boats are built in this manner. of course not by nailing the frames down, but in the inverted method.... Mario | ||
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