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| daves |
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 Registered Member #105 Joined: Wed Jul 15 2009, 12:01pmPosts: 3550 | I am checking sites to figure out what the (view) count really is. if I google model ship general hunter this forum and the NRG forum come up. So if anyone clicks the search link I would think it counts as a view or does google count it as a view by just finding and listing it? The reason I began checking this out was when I realized I got 5,155 views but only 160 total for all 4 videos views at You Tube from the video links in the build log. Creating videos for the build log take time and effort and really slows down the building process. So if only 160 out of 5,000 bother to view the clips then it is not worth the time and effort to make them. But if search engines are messing with views in the forums then it is another story. Reminds me of having to type in a code on sites to make sure you are a real person, a cyber robot would not view a video link. Forums / HMS General Hunter - Model Ship Builder www.modelshipbuilder.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewforum.php?29 Last updated: May 03, 2015 · 6 posts · First post: May 06, 2013 This forum is moderated by: Winston, aew: 1 user is browsing this forum at the moment (0 members, 1 guest) . Forums / POF Build Logs / General Hunter - Model Ship Builder modelshipbuilder.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?1942.0 Last updated: Oct 25, 2010 · 10 posts · First post: Oct 11, 2010 This is the introduction to the building of the General Hunter plank on frame model. The hull is 1:48 scale and is 18 x 4 x 4 inches. for anyone wanting to build a ... | ||
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| Winston |
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Winston  Registered Member #1 Joined: Sat Jun 13 2009, 02:08pmPosts: 2716 | When it comes down to statistics, you really need to be able to nail down what it is you are dealing with. For example, in Google (or any other search engine for that matter) when you make a search, the results of that search display on your screen. If there is a link to your particular page on that results page then it would be considered a "view" regardless if someone clicked on the link or not. To complicate things even further, you don't know what the user was actually searching for when your link appeared in the results page. That being said, having over a 2% click through ratio is a respectable number over all if you are not actively marketing a given webpage. I don't rely to heavy on the site statistics that are on the Forum on the site as I know they have had problems with this module over the years in that it does not always report what it should be. About the only number you can really rely on are the total number of posts and replies. I tend to use the server stats for more accurate numbers and only use the site statistics as a loose guideline. | ||
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| Gary M |
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| Registered Member #4198 Joined: Tue May 07 2013, 10:50pmPosts: 902 | Dave, I just watched your planking video this am. It was great. There were so many tips packed into this 5-minute video. And, to your point => I was disappointed to see that it has had only 47 views on utube. I for one appreciate your work, as do all those on this site, and I understand your desire to maximize value in what you do. Thanks, G | ||
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| daves |
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| Registered Member #105 Joined: Wed Jul 15 2009, 12:01pmPosts: 3550 | the General Hunter build posted on 2 forums for a total of 7,534 "views" like you said Gary there are 47 count on the you tube video. That got me wondering exactly what a "view" is and really the video idea seems to be a fail considering the same 2 site have a total of 20,295 members and almost no one views the videos. the value is time and time might be put to better use in drawing, 3D printing and designing stuff rather than videos | ||
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| Winston |
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| Winston Registered Member #1 Joined: Sat Jun 13 2009, 02:08pmPosts: 2716 | That really depends on the goal you are trying to achieve Dave. The only people who are most likely to watch any videos are those who are interested in or in the process of building the GH. While construction methods can be similar in all POF models, I don't think todays typical model builder looks at it that way, especially beginner to novice builders. Today they want something that is completely specific to the build they have. So, to get them viewed a lot they have to be marketed (I use that term loosely) on a regular basis to an interested audience. Its not unlike attracting website visitors. I can easily attract a million visitors a day to the site. But that is no good if only 1/100th of 1% are people interested in model building. You have to create the product/video series first then market it to an appropriate audience. Simply throwing it on a website will more often than not have little results unless there is a big call for that item/service. | ||
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| daves |
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| Registered Member #105 Joined: Wed Jul 15 2009, 12:01pmPosts: 3550 | so now I was told views of a video do not count from a link only views from you tube count. so in other words people clicking the Caustic videos on this site will not register as a count on the you tube site. | ||
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| Bill Edgin |
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  Registered Member #4362 Joined: Wed Jan 22 2014, 02:37amPosts: 372 | Well I for one am not currently interested in building the GH. However, I do actively follow your building logs and watch your videos since I always learn something that I can use on my Eagle build. I appreciate the work involved and Winston is right, there are a small number of us, but you help us tremendously. | ||
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| donfarr |
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| Registered Member #2001 Joined: Fri Dec 23 2011, 09:51pmPosts: 2071 | I completly agree with Bill your help and work are invaluable to the hobby, I CONSIDER YOU MY MENTOR and learn a tremendous amount from you your inovative skills are beyond anything else. Don | ||
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| daves |
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| Registered Member #105 Joined: Wed Jul 15 2009, 12:01pmPosts: 3550 | Gary M wrote ... And, to your point => I was disappointed to see that it has had only 47 views on utube. I looked into You Tube and checked my personal account information and shows a totally different views my account shows 3,457 views way different than what the view shows on the video | ||
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| Winston |
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| Winston Registered Member #1 Joined: Sat Jun 13 2009, 02:08pmPosts: 2716 | That kind of provides support to my earlier post about statistics and having to know exactly what it is you are dealing with when it comes to the numbers and how they are derived. It really can be a rocket science at times.  | ||
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