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teleman

Sun Oct 12 2014, 09:32pm

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HI PETER,
SINCE YOUR SAYING PAGE 5 OF THE PDF. THAT PUTS ME ON PAGE 7 OF THE ARTICLE. WHICH I HOPE I AM RIGHT. FAIRING THE BULKHEADS I HOPE. YOU MUST GLUE THE BULKHEADS AND KEEL, AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE COMPLETELY SQUARE TO EACH OTHER.
A LOT BUILDERS WILL USE LEGOS TO ASSIST THEM SQUARING THE KEEL AND BULKHEADS. ONCE GLUED I USUALLY FOR MYSELF ADD A LITTLE MORE GLUE SO THEY DO NOT COME LOOSE FROM FAIRING THE HULL. I WILL FIND A PICTURE FOR YOU AND ATTACH HERE FOR YOU.

teleman

Sun Oct 12 2014, 09:48pm

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HERE YOU GO PETER,
THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD VIDEO. IT'S PART 2. BUT YOU WILL SEE PART 1 OF HIS BUILD WHICH WILL ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALSO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8ubucIk8WY

IT MENTIONS IN PART 1 TO BEVEL THE BULKHEADS BEFORE GLUING. I HAVE NEVER DONE THIS. I GLUE EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND THEN START FAIRING. WHICH FOR ME IS EASIER. FAIRING(SANDING) A LITTLE THEN GRABBING A HULL PLANK AND LAY IT ACROSS A FEW BULKHEADS TO MAKE SURE MY FAIRING PROCESS IS GOING GOOD. ANOTHER WARDS THE HULL PLANK IS STARTING TO LAY ON THE BULKHEADS NICE AND SMOOTH. NO HILLS OR VALLEY'S AS YOU LOOK DOWN THE LENGTH OF THE HULL. YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THIS IN PART OF THIS VIDEO.

[ Edited Sun Oct 12 2014, 09:59pm ]

Peter Foele

Sun Oct 19 2014, 10:26pm

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hi Dave and Mario,
thanks for the tips and info.

I dismantled the parts and transferred the beard line to the keel. Then started gluing the individual bulkheads to the keel, adjusting the sizes to suit as I went along.
Once I was over halfway with the bulkheads, I used 4 planks to make sure all stayed in line.
This picture represents when all bar one bulkhead were glued in place.

I then proceeded with fitting the deck supports, and dry-fitting the deck supplied with the kit.

Drilling holes in the deck to test the positions and angles of the masts

Peter Foele

Sun Oct 19 2014, 10:45pm

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I noticed that the mast had quit some movement in them, so I decided to fit some blocks to ensure the angle was correct when I eventually glue the decks in place and have the hull planked (thinking if I did not do this I might have some problems later in keeping the correct angle until glue sets)

When sanding the bulkheads to obtain a smooth line, I noticed some small vibrations in the bulkheads, so I fitted some supports.

I am unhappy with the design on the deck - the lines are way too thick, and the planking is parallel across both decks, while the practicum indicates that the deck-planking follows the hull line on the aft deck. Also, the bulkheads are spaced too far apart to look right. I have drawn pencil lines where the bulkheads would be visible on the real vessel (but scaled down, of course)

So my plan is to fit new (thin) planking on this deck to alter the planking design, and also to remove the parts of the bulkheads that stick out above the deck and replace them with new ones to make it look like it is a POF build (but only above deck, the hull will be fully planked).

My thinking is to shape the top two planks on each side of the hull but without the deck in place - they will be glued to each other, but not to the bulkheads. Clamping them in place I will be able to continue planking the hull from plank 3 downwards (these will be glued permanently).
Once I have about half of the height of the hull planked, I will glue the decks in place, and remove those parts of the bulkheads that stick out. Then i will glue the replacements in place, then fit the previously shaped top two planks.

Looking forward to hear from the more experience guys of this is a feasible option, or if there are better ways to tackle this.

Slainte
Peter

Peter Foele

Mon Nov 03 2014, 10:44pm

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Hi All,
here follows another update.

while beveling the bulkheads I noticed an error I made when gluing them in place. Two bulkheads were not sitting deep enough on the keel (dry-fitting posed no problems, so I presume I was a bit too hasty gluing things in place and did not pay sufficient attention to how things ended lining up)

So I thought about it for a while. As I saw it I had a number of options:

1) trying to pry it off and glue on anew, but this time positioned correctly. Did not like that, in case I break the bulkhead or keel.

2) Try and glue on a little strip of wood at the bottom of each offending bulkhead so I can sand it perfectly. The top can be sanded down no problem. Sounds good, but executing may be a bit difficult due to the shape of one of the bulkheads.

3) Sand down the other bulkheads, and thus altering the lines of the vessel. Did not like the idea of that very much neither

4) Sand down the top of the bulkheads to line them up with the rest, and fill in the empty spaces with balsa (could not get this locally, and was not willing to wait a few weeks for delivery) or insulating foam (the fine stuff) followed by sanding the hull to shape. Seemed like the quickest way to do this.

So this is the result

Note to self: try to avoid this in future builds, as sanding this stuff down is not only very messy, but not so good on the lungs.

These pictures show how much out of line the two offending bulkheads were

I chose not to fill the middle space, as those lined up perfectly.

Next step is to glue on the decks, then comes the fun part of learning how to plank the hull.

See y'all next time.
Slainte

[ Edited Mon Nov 03 2014, 10:46pm ]

Peter Foele

Sun Nov 09 2014, 03:35pm

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Hello All,
into my first array of planking a POB.

As I intend to make some changes on the deck (relating to the spacings between the bulkheads) I focused on getting plank 3 counting from the top fitted as near to perfect as I can.

[ Edited Sun Nov 09 2014, 03:45pm ]

Peter Foele

Sun Nov 09 2014, 03:40pm

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Then I continued with the planks going down, one on each side. After pre-bending the planks, I checked them dry, and beveled the edges so as to get a good fit between them.

Once I was happy I glued them in place. Waiting for the glue to set overnight before moving on the the next plank.

This is how she stands at the moment.

Peter Foele

Sun Nov 09 2014, 03:43pm

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I scraped the edges of the planks to get a feel of how the lines are going.
I also reduced the excess of planks at the stern for two reasons:
1) I did not want to accidentally knock them off
2) I wanted a clear run for the next row of planks

Will keep you updated once I a a bit further.
Feel free to ask questions or give advice.

Slainte
Peter